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    Avengers: Age Of Ultron - May 1st, 2015

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    During the Marvel Studios panel at 2013 San Diego Comic-Con International, Joss Whedon announced that the official title for Avengers 2 is Avengers: Age Of Ultron.

    The first Avengers movie was a huge success for Marvel Studios. The Avengers set an all time opening weekend record with $207.4 million at the United States box office. The Avengers is currently the third highest grossing movie of all time worldwide with a box office take of over $1.5 billion.

    The Avengers 2 is scheduled to be released in movie theaters in the United States on May 1, 2015.



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    I wonder if Ultron won't show up for 110 minutes of the movie, just to have 5 minutes of screen-time, as he did in the comics.

    Either way, this confirms Vin Diesel will play The Vision. Or at least that's what I hope.

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    No Hank Pym or Janet Van Dyne = bad idea. How exactly do Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch fit into it? Is Simon Williams going to exist as well?

    Joss Whedon has a clusterfuck on his hands and there's a reason conventional Avengers teams have been 5-9 members max, this sounds like it's going to be a train wreck.

    Age of Ultron's purpose was to destroy the Ultimates Universe, what does this serve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicant81 View Post
    No Hank Pym or Janet Van Dyne = bad idea. How exactly do Quicksilver and The Scarlet Witch fit into it? Is Simon Williams going to exist as well?

    Joss Whedon has a clusterfuck on his hands and there's a reason conventional Avengers teams have been 5-9 members max, this sounds like it's going to be a train wreck.

    Age of Ultron's purpose was to destroy the Ultimates Universe, what does this serve?
    Money! It'll print money, and that's all they care about lol.

    Also, weren't they going to release Ant-Man movie? If so, they can somehow squeeze Pym in all this (that is, if they make him Ant-Man), and somehow end it with him creating Ultron or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagflar View Post
    Money! It'll print money, and that's all they care about lol.

    Also, weren't they going to release Ant-Man movie? If so, they can somehow squeeze Pym in all this (that is, if they make him Ant-Man), and somehow end it with him creating Ultron or something.
    At this point, Whedon will "Fox" it up and probably have Iron Man make him, who the hell knows. It's putting the horse before the cart, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicant81 View Post
    At this point, Whedon will "Fox" it up and probably have Iron Man make him, who the hell knows. It's putting the horse before the cart, that's for sure.
    That's the rumor that's going around. I think its completely stupid to have Tony create him. Whedon already confirmed that Hank Pym will not be making an appearance in the movie...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denaratuck View Post
    That's the rumor that's going around. I think its completely stupid to have Tony create him. Whedon already confirmed that Hank Pym will not be making an appearance in the movie...
    He did? Wonderful, for that confirms this will suck. No need to pay to watch it be a clusterfuck now.

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    Joss Whedon: No, You Don't Need Hank Pym to Have Ultron

    We don't have to have him. It works very simply — this is Marvel cinema, not Marvel comics. One thing [Marvel Studios head] Kevin Feige has a genius for is knowing what to hold onto and what to let go of. You can invoke the feeling you had and play with the characters you love and remain true to the needs of the film.
    You'll have to wait and and see, but you don't need a Pym to create an Ultron.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylai2RE9EM0

    "Well, because there was a book called 'Age of Ultron' quite recently, a lot of people have assumed that is what we're doing, but that is not the case. We're doing our own version of the origin story for Ultron. In the origin story, there was Hank Pym, so a lot of people assumed that he will be in the mix. He's not. We're basically taking the things from the comics for the movies that we need and can use. A lot of stuff has to fall by the wayside."


    i love Joss Whedon for telling comic book purists to shut the fuck up. There's a reason the movie universe is separated.

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    I don't read comics but I do have some knowledge about most supeheroes/villains and I normally wouldn't care but this is dumb. What does the Guardians of the Galaxy have to do with Ultron? Why tease Thanos and then do Ultron?? Why not just switch Ant-Man and GOTG release dates? Just end the Ant-Man movie with him making Ultron and then the Avengers 2 is them fighting him. This all just sounds rushed.
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    Ultron!! Don't care how they get there, just glad he is the big bad and not Thanos.

    We can nitpick the holy hell out of the how and why or we can remember that comics constantly remix origin stories.Either way, it's still way too early to be rolling eyes at hypotheticals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larrydavidsavatar View Post
    Ultron!! Don't care how they get there, just glad he is the big bad and not Thanos.
    I was looking forward to Thanos.
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    Nobody's said that Thanos won't be in it.

    Especially since the current rumor is that Vin Diesel will play Thanos or possibly be Luke Cage in a different movie and NOT Vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ps360 View Post
    Joss Whedon: No, You Don't Need Hank Pym to Have Ultron






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    i love Joss Whedon for telling comic book purists to shut the fuck up. There's a reason the movie universe is separated.

    in before "If it isn't 100% like the comics it's terrible"
    Agreed 100%



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrion619 View Post
    Nobody's said that Thanos won't be in it.

    Especially since the current rumor is that Vin Diesel will play Thanos or possibly be Luke Cage in a different movie and NOT Vision.
    That'd be hilariously stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Larrydavidsavatar View Post
    Ultron!! Don't care how they get there, just glad he is the big bad and not Thanos.

    We can nitpick the holy hell out of the how and why or we can remember that comics constantly remix origin stories.Either way, it's still way too early to be rolling eyes at hypotheticals.
    One origin story that's never been remixed nor changed, is Ultron's. You may argue whatever you want with Spider-Man's, Wolverins's or any other very popular character (especially those with a movie), but Ultron's is pretty much set on stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagflar View Post
    One origin story that's never been remixed nor changed, is Ultron's. You may argue whatever you want with Spider-Man's, Wolverins's or any other very popular character (especially those with a movie), but Ultron's is pretty much set on stone.
    Not to mention that a major part of what makes Ultron what he is, is that he seems to get satisfaction in making his "father" suffer, and pointing out how flawed he is. A unique thing to Henry Pym is that he is as flawed as a super hero can get in every way and what makes him even more special is that he seems to overcome not only his foes, but the disappointment his teammates have in him.

    You make Ultron the creation of Tony Stark (or anybody for that matter not named Henry Pym), you take a major part away from him in his constant desire to tease. I just don't see it bugging Tony Stark, or whoever else.

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    Up until the Marvel Studio movies have "bent" the characters to fit in the movie universe, but nevertheless acted how they were supposed to and had their general origins told in a way that is near similar to their actual origins in the comics. Joss Wheden is about to take all that and fuck it up as bad as any other studio has in all likelihood, not only with Ultron but his stubborn need to have Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in the movie (despite the fact they can't be mutants, since Fox owns the rights to all mutants in movies).

    Anybody who doesn't see that Whedon's decisions have a 99% chance of being a royal clusterfuck (just like his runs on Astonishing X-Men and The Runaways, two books he left in shambles with his idiocy) then you need to open up your eyes, get off your Buffy love, and realize the guy misses a helluva a lot more than he hits. Especially in comics and when he is doing too many projects (like producing every Marvel Studio film, and working on a TV series, and writing other movies).

    The second Avengers movie has lowered my expectations to an all new low, that only Fox and Sony were capable of before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubicant81 View Post
    Anybody who doesn't see that Whedon's decisions have a 99% chance of being a royal clusterfuck (just like his runs on Astonishing X-Men and The Runaways, two books he left in shambles with his idiocy) then you need to open up your eyes, get off your Buffy love, and realize the guy misses a helluva a lot more than he hits. Especially in comics and when he is doing too many projects (like producing every Marvel Studio film, and working on a TV series, and writing other movies).
    you mean a guy who writes tv shows/movies can't write comic books properly


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    next your going to tell me that video game writing can't be adapted to movies properly



    old news but for those wondering:


    loki not part of avengers 2 at all:

    http://www.thewrap.com/movies/articl...on-audio-97741



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ps360 View Post
    you mean a guy who writes tv shows/movies can't write comic books properly


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    next your going to tell me that video game writing can't be adapted to movies properly
    Judging by how he can hardly write properly for TV, he shouldn't be writing movie scripts either.

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    I'm both excited and curious about Avengers:Age of Ultron.

    Excited because they'll use Ultron as the main villian (he's pretty cool looking villian)
    Curious because there's really isn't a good Ultron story arc in the comic books.
    My guess is Whedon will use a brand new story arc for the movie Ultron



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverinefangirl View Post
    Curious because there's really isn't a good Ultron story arc in the comic books.
    Let's see, an accidental creation by Hank Pym when he was working too long and blacked out (later retconned to him knowing he modeled Ultron after his own brainwaves during the mass Ultron invasion) that taught itself to learn. (That's Ultrons 1-4)

    Ultron created The Vision because he felt he needed a son so he copied the catatonic Wonder Man's brainwaves and created a "son" so he'd have a family, only to have The vision turn and help defeat Ultron the first time. (Ultron 5)

    Ultron forces The Vision to steal the US governments total supply of adamantium to make himself a body made of it to become indestructible. Beats the living snot out of all the Avengers only to have Hank Pym plant a self-destruction program that forces Ultron to kill himself. (Ultron 6)

    After Sue Storm (The Invisible Woman) is expecting her child and goes to the Inhumans for help with the delivery, Ultron attacks with a giant body, destroying the Inhuman's Himalayan home, forcing them to move to the moon, and is overcome by the genius of Reed Richards. (Ultron 7)

    Ultron finds a way to mind control Henry Pym to make him create a wife, Jocasta. Only thing is he needs some brain patterns and the sicko that he is decides his "mother" the Wasp is the perfect candidate and kidnaps her to make it so his wife thinks just like his fathers. Scarlet Witch (learning to actually use magic at this point from Agatha Harkness) kills Jocasta and Ultron flees. (Ultron 8)

    Ultron finds out his body is too weak, uses same mind control device he created on Tony Stark and makes an Adamantium body, supposedly killing himself in the process so his new body can be stronger than it was before. (Ultron 9)

    Ultron discovers he cannot follow through with his plans unless he has a back up, so he promptly creates a back up that would boot up with his current thoughts when he is destroyed allowing him to continue on where he left out without having to worry about a body. Sadly (for Ultron) the back up was destroyed before it could be finished and Ultron was forced to flee again. (Ultron 10)

    Ultron 11 was a villain in the first Secret Wars, Doom reprograms him into a slave during the wars. A few months later we find out his back-up plan worked, but it booted itself up before the evil 11 could transfer over. Ultron 12 actually had a good streak, rethought his ways, and sought out Henry Pym to reconcile. After the Secret Wars ended, 11 was back to how he was before his reprogramming (but with the memories of what happened) and sought out 12 to add fail safes for what Doom did to him. When he discovers that "12" has betrayed him, he kills him, leaving Henry Pym without his only chance to fix the errors of his creation. In anger, Wonder Man tears 11 to pieces in a rage, ending him. (Ultron 11 and 12).

    Doom using his knowledge from Secret Wars creates an Ultron to fight Daredevil. Doom makes a mistake in his coding and Ultron has 13 seperate personalities that are all in conflict with one another. Thanks to this error, Daredevil defeats Ultron despite him being built of adamantium again (a theory that one of the personalities figures out the formula for during, and later is able to do himself as long as he had access to vibranium). (Ultron 13)

    Ultron decides humanity can no longer be enslaved and isn't worth the effort, instead deciding that the only way to save Earth is to destroy all organic life and begin again with synthetics, he tries again to make a wife to help him "build a family." This time the wife is named Alkhema and is based off of Shield's files on Mockingbird's psyche. He is destroyed and Alkhema is caught, but later it is found he did so on purpose to plant multiple trojan horses in The Avengers and Shields files. (Ultron 14)

    Ultron finally begins to mass produce and sends his first "Ultron Army" to Slovenia and in less than 24 hours destroys every living life form in the country. This is broadcasted on global news as he taunts everybody to attack him. He captures all of his living "relatives" and Pym reveals the brain wave truth. The army is destroyed by various Avengers and Pym's use of anatartic vibranium which destroys all other metals. (Ultron 15-1500)

    Next time Ultron shows up he's trying to insert the captured brain waves of Pym, Wasp, Wonderman, Grim Reaper and activate "The Ultron Imperative" which would make each new Ultron find a brain pattern to steal and acquire said personality. Sadly this fails as Tony Stark plans a hack of Ultron forcing him to be in one of his new hi tech suits, and sets it to self destruct.

    Then there is the time he took over all of Starktech, made himself look like Wasp, The annhilation wave, the Ultron War in the future, in which Ultron nearly conquered all of the universe. Add in the recent Age of Ultron (which had one of the best twist endings of recent major arcs, and probably since House of M in the Marvel Universe) - yep, "there really isn't a good Ultron story arc in the comics."

    Ultron is one of the best villains to ever exist because of his ability to evolve, learn, and adapt. Kang himself has pointed out that since his creation he wins in all but one timeline in eliminating everybody. Anybody who thinks that Ultron isn't a threat, or puts forth some of the most thought provoking and scary possibilities in comics (and this was DECADES before Terminator), you need to probably go back and read something before you make such absolutely laughable statements as this.

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