Super Comic Book Character Melee Showdown Battle Royale

[NeroRadec707]

Title came from a game me and co-workers used to play at work and we just add on random words to make the title longer, but normally just called it Comic Battle Royale or something along those lines. Makes me think Sony tried to copy us by coming up with such a long ass name for their Super Smash Brothers type game, but nonetheless Lord Nero can't prove this. . Back to topic now..

Just something wanted to share and get some thoughts on from my friends and other fellow forumers here about a certain Comic Book character ... named Batman and just how overrated he really is . Before bashing me for that comment, I love Batman, but some things have come up. Who here thinks he ACTUALLY could take down most of the villains he does, and without the help he normally receives? One of the co-workers pretty much always says Batman can take down anyone and kinda n00bish now cause we brought in some Spiderman villains and included a battle with him too. Still says Batman and always uses two excuses..

One: He's Batman..

Two: He would know how to stop them and their weakness.

Anyone agree that though Batman is a genius and will learn it if given time and can research, he isn't THAT smart and badass enough to truly survive and make through everything as does and my friend says. He is human and has no powers other than his skill and prowess which will only get him so far and a "limited" number of gadgets on his belt. Just think of him running into Spiderman and them getting into it some how and tell me how that would go down .

Just share some thoughts and probably turn this into a debate thread on who would win a given situation after seen some of your posts here. No right or wrong answers, just opinions and chit chat for fans of Comics and such . Hell even people just based off watching the movies can relate a little bit without being big fans even .

[Astro]

Well, this is kind of hard for me since Batman is my favorite while Spider-man is my third favorite. However, last Spider-man I read had Peter die and it was handed off to a kid. So, I think Batman can beat a kid if we're going off that. lol

[Luckay]

Spiderman shoots spider webs That's intimidating...

Batman has gadgets that are improved upon and he gets new ones made for his situations. I think Batman would win, simply because Batman could just break the webs with his gadgets.

[NeroRadec707]

Main point is Batman really being truly as onstoppable as he is.

VS Spiderman though, my thing is this. Web is lot tougher than anything Bats will have to cut it. Going off age old Amazing Spider man here, not the new kid.. Both are intelligent, but Spidreman has his spidey sense AND is more agilte than bats would be along with quicker, stronger, and better less limited ranged. Can hide and escape easier, though Batman may be better at escaping. Spidey would get off 2 or 3 punches and a kick of super strength before Bats could land one or counter it. Along with Spidey countering his with his spidey sense. Just my opinions on it

But what say Bats VS Spider Man's villains?

[Nagflar]

There are 4 comic book characters that shouldn't be mentioned in this thread ebcause they've been overrated beyond belief. They are The Hulk, Wolverine, Batman and, without a doubt, Superman. Special mentions would be Green Lantern, The Spectre and Captain Marvel, but not to the same degree as the others.

Those characters can/will take down practically anyone. Neither Spiderman nor his villians would be able to beat Batman because he IS Batman and has been overrated beyond belief. He's unstoppable, specially against characters as weak as Spiderman (guess what? he's weak, always been and always will, as loveable and funny as he is), beginning with the fact Spiderman may punch harder, but he doesn't know how to fight, and Batman does, so evading his lame punches and kicks will be no problem for a fighter as skilled as him against someone who doesn't know how to fight (remember, Captain America kicked Spiderman's ass in a fight).

And the Spiderman that died was Ultimate Spiderman, and he died for protecting people (like all superheroes do).

[Denaratuck]

Batman would easily win. The guy thought of plans to take out the entire Justice League if the need ever arrived so I'm sure he could manage to think of something against one hero...

[leatherface000]

If Bane can beat up the Bat. Spidey can beat up the Bat.

[Nagflar]

If Bane can beat up the Bat. Spidey can beat up the Bat.

So Spiderman can beat up the Bat only after the Bat has fought with over half a dozen super villians without taking a rest in days? I always thought Peter was a pussy .

[NeroRadec707]

Comparing their strengths and weaknesses into a real fight.. I still say Spiderman, even if he can't fight as well, he's still can whoop some ass, needless to say he'd be so much faster than Batman before he can even think. Hello.. how would Batman ever land a hit, needless to say he'd tire out faster and Spiderman would be that much more quick and agile.. . Batman is just human while Spiderman is virtually genetically enhanced individual with no real weakness other than his own jokes, but in a serious fight he'd have the upper-hand every time.

And he takes on much deadlier foes like Venom and Green Goblin which lots more attacks and abilities than those of Batman. Batman needs all that time preparing, but even then he would know nothing of Spiderman or have knowledge of what the web material is he uses or how to interact with the spidey sense and various other of Parker's abilities.

And count in Spiderman's own healing factor(not Hulk/Wolverine level but still)..

I am liking this so far and thanks Naggles for being the thorn in my backside as usual, BUT hope everyone around here isn't on Bruce's D$*K .He's not as unstoppable if you really think about it. Let him go one on one jumped in the street against Venom and see how long he lasts before he's ripped to ribbons.

[NeroRadec707]

Some more food for thought aside from how bad an asskicking Spiderman would give Batman..

Killer Croc VS Lizard.

I say Lizard every time on this one. He's just as big as Croc is.. genetically enhanced speed, strength and agility.. He has a tail.. regenerative powers to regrow limbs and healing factor. Just badass wicked

[Nagflar]

Comparing their strengths and weaknesses into a real fight.. I still say Spiderman, even if he can't fight as well, he's still can whoop some ass, needless to say he'd be so much faster than Batman before he can even think. Hello.. how would Batman ever land a hit, needless to say he'd tire out faster and Spiderman would be that much more quick and agile.. . Batman is just human while Spiderman is virtually genetically enhanced individual with no real weakness other than his own jokes, but in a serious fight he'd have the upper-hand every time.

And he takes on much deadlier foes like Venom and Green Goblin which lots more attacks and abilities than those of Batman. Batman needs all that time preparing, but even then he would know nothing of Spiderman or have knowledge of what the web material is he uses or how to interact with the spidey sense and various other of Parker's abilities.

And count in Spiderman's own healing factor(not Hulk/Wolverine level but still)..

I am liking this so far and thanks Naggles for being the thorn in my backside as usual, BUT hope everyone around here isn't on Bruce's D$*K .He's not as unstoppable if you really think about it. Let him go one on one jumped in the street against Venom and see how long he lasts before he's ripped to ribbons.

Hello, how could Spiderman land any hit against Batman if he's practically as agile as him and much better at evading? Also, Spiderman can be hit, his spider sense isn't infalible. Remember he's been hit very hard before . How do you think he's been beaten to near dead so many times before ? Not to mention Spiderman has more weaknesses than the original JLA together, not for nothing has he been beaten in every major arc he's in and everytime he fights a heavy-hitter he gets saved by someone else (mostly Captain America and the Fantastic Four).

Batman can plan on the go, as proven by the many comics he's done so before in so many different arch he's been through throughout his publishing history (not to mention he's practically the smartest person in the whole comic industry, thanks to his overratedness and proven by all those cross-arcs where he's with Marvel characters), not to mention he has virtually everything on his damn belt (thanks to the afforementioned overratedness). He also wouldn't go down in a matter of minutes and would guess most of Spiderman's abilities from the go and from Peter himself, who wouldn't stop talking and who he could easily trick into telling him more (because he always falls for that).

His level factor is still slow. He needs a little over a day to fully recover (more if he's badly injured), so it wouldn't really factor in a single fight.

Spiderman is outmatched and wouldn't be able to win this, just like Batman would be if he was to face Hulk lol.

You're welcome, nero. I'm simply too much of a comics fan to not argue about this afterall .

[Astro]

Well, judging from what Nag just posted, I think that about wraps it up. lol How about the Punisher versus Deadpool?

[Nagflar]

Well, judging from what Nag just posted, I think that about wraps it up. lol How about the Punisher versus Deadpool?

Deadpool. The Punisher's weapons, no matter how destructive, wouldn't kill him. Deadpool would just keep coming back and sooner or later (most likely very soon) would behead Punisher.

Some more food for thought aside from how bad an asskicking Spiderman would give Batman..

Killer Croc VS Lizard.

I say Lizard every time on this one. He's just as big as Croc is.. genetically enhanced speed, strength and agility.. He has a tail.. regenerative powers to regrow limbs and healing factor. Just badass wicked

I think Killer Croc stands a chance, but i'm not entirely sure. Not very familiar with Lizard's comic-counter-part (more familiar with the animated one), but Croc ain't a moron at all and Lizard (from what I recall) didn't keep his highly intelectual faculties when being, well, a lizard, so Croc could outsmart him. In a fair fight, I think they're even, with the balance being a little tilted towards Lizard (mainly due to the regenerative powers).

[NeroRadec707]

Still disagree on that other Nag, but least can agree edge goes to Lizard. For the intelligence, I know Croc isn't all that dumb, but he's more agressive and animalistic than Lizard is and as long as Conners keeps control, he more often than not still has most of his intelligence. Different comics depict it differently so yeah, just depends, but still has more advantages against Croc. Biggest being he doesn't kill though Croc woudln't hesitate, but considering a fight to the death, won't regard that.. otherwise, Batman/Superman/Spiderman/etc could never win as they would't go for the kill UNLESS FORCED upon it and even then, try to save the other.

Deadpool definitely against Punisher, though Punisher might get jump initially.

[Doctor_Doom]

Doom beats all. That is all.

[Nagflar]

Doom beats all. That is all.

Looool, tell that to Richards !

[Rubicant81]

I think that this Spider-Man (yes, that is the correct way to spell his name hyphen and all) judgment by Nagflar is a little bit unfair, and really comes off selling the guy a little bit shorter than what he actually is. Spider-Man has a list of weaknesses, like everybody else - but not enough that he can be exploited in almost any fight, or have some sort of ability that can be exploited (even psychics have a hard time with Spidey's head because of what a mess it is). So I am not exactly saying that the ol' webslinger would be as easy pickings as presented.

Some people might call the fact that Spider-Man has had more team-ups than any other Marvel hero as some sort of weakness. I'd argue that it just shows that the guy is humble enough to admit when a fight comes that is too big for himself alone, and welcome a helping hand if somebody capable is willing to offer. For nearly 4 decades (or what Stan Lee would say would be about 12-14 years of time passing in the Marvel Universe), Spidey was often portrayed as the proverbial loner, who refused membership in almost every major team that has existed during that period, because he didn't want more responsibility piled on to the heaps he already had. That isn't to say that he doesn't work well with others, or refuses help - just that he's always seemed to have enough other things causing him grief that galactic wars or racial strife didn't really seem like something he felt comfortable adding on to his plate.

At this point, in Peter Parker's story - he has received some formal fighting experience from his fellow Avengers, so to say that he has no formal fighting skills is pretty much a bold faced lie. Not to mention that for a guy who spends his nights beating up nearly every villain in the Marvel Universe - Spider-Man has picked up his own unique fighting style that although unorthodox is effective in it's own ways, and has been pointed out for it's intricate quirks and strengths and would be a difficult style for most people to adjust to, considering that Spidey's superhuman strength, speed, and agility has given him his own unique limits to what he is capable of.

If Batman and Spider-Man were to ever throw down, one-on-one with one another though - I'd give the slight edge to Batman because of how extremely overpowered he is portrayed by almost every representation. That doesn't mean I would give it to him in a landslide, because the little X-Factor of Spider-Man's "spider sense" would be the one thing that would give Master Wayne fits. There is always the possibility that Batman has some ridiculously unpractical gadget on his personage that could disable that advantage, so it's quite possible that the situation can be rendered a moot point before it ever even comes into play. As for fighting styles, I am unsure whether one or the other has a significant advantage over one or the other, but I think that it is more likely that if Spider-Man were to get in a lucky punch, as opposed to Batman getting one, that Spidey's would definitely deal a lot more damage and have a higher chance of causing a quick finish. The longer the fight, the more likely it would be that Batman would pull it off, and I don't think either one would catch the other unaware to get a distinct preemptive strike on the other so in all likelihood if a scrap were to go down it would be face to face and both would know who they were dealing with.

So if I had to call it, I'd give a 60% chance to Batman pulling it off, if both were in their full set-ups and at full strength. Have them in nothing but trunks and their natural gifts - take the tech out of it, I'd give a 70% shot to Spider-Man; considering that isn't a likely scenario and most people would prefer Batman versus Spider-Man with all the bells and whistles, as opposed to a Peter Parker versus Bruce Wayne manning it up without the tights. Either way, I don't really give too heavy of an advantage to one side or the other.

And there is really no shame in having Captain America beat your ass in a fight - the guy pretty much is the paragon of human excellence and trains harder than anybody in the Marvel Universe in honing his fighting skills. Pretty every hero who isn't the Hulk has had Cap teach them a lesson a time or two at some point.

[NeroRadec707]

Doom beats all. That is all.

Why am I not surprised honestly lolz. Doctor Doom needs an opponent though

[Doctor_Doom]

Looool, tell that to Richards !

Curse Richards!!!! Curse him! CURSE YOU RICHARDS!!!!

[Nagflar]

I think that this Spider-Man (yes, that is the correct way to spell his name hyphen and all) judgment by Nagflar is a little bit unfair, and really comes off selling the guy a little bit shorter than what he actually is. Spider-Man has a list of weaknesses, like everybody else - but not enough that he can be exploited in almost any fight, or have some sort of ability that can be exploited (even psychics have a hard time with Spidey's head because of what a mess it is). So I am not exactly saying that the ol' webslinger would be as easy pickings as presented.

And there is really no shame in having Captain America beat your ass in a fight - the guy pretty much is the paragon of human excellence and trains harder than anybody in the Marvel Universe in honing his fighting skills. Pretty every hero who isn't the Hulk has had Cap teach them a lesson a time or two at some point.

Oh no, don't think it is, because itis! I'm obviously selling him off as one of the weakest characters in the Marvel Universe, when in reality we all know he isn't . Just some exaggeration from my part, afterall.

And of course there's no real shame on that. Captain America is the best-skilled fighter in the whole Marvel Universe, teaching practically every Avenger he ever teamed up with how to fair well in a fist fight (Hawkeye being a prime example) and being able to hold Hulk for a while without getting horribly owned.

And that is one the reasons I think Batman has more than 60% of probability to beat Spider-man, because he fought Captain America one-on-one and both figured out it would take them weeks to actually determine a winner.