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Any Reason At All Sony isn't using Toro And Kuro outside Japan?

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    Any Reason At All Sony isn't using Toro And Kuro outside Japan?

    For those who don't know Toro and Kuro, let me get you up to speed.



    this is Toro and Kuro.







    Toro (white cat) is Sony's Official Playstation mascot in Japan. Kuro (Black cat) is his partner. They basically are two game characters that do their own thing on sony's platform.


    You might of seen them in Street Fighter x Tekken or LittleBigPlanet.


    They do tons of stuff in japan. they even have their own weekly news thing they do over there for playstation owners.


    example, Here's them talking about a Inital D Game for the PS3:




    and even do fun things for upcoming releases, like they did for Project Diva 2nd:





    it's a WAY WAY Better system then that Pulse and Qore bullshit. I wouldn't mind paying for a news service like this if it was this well done.





    Don't get me started on the mass amount of DLC Shit that is in other third/first party games that come out on the PS3.










    Toro also has his own party game too, for the PS3 and filled with a bunch of fun mini-games








    Basically If Sony Pulled it's head out of it's ass for once, it could see a MAJOR MAJOR Oppurtunity to solve the Mascot Problem for Sony in the rest of the world While having a potential to appeal to a bigger audience with the characters. Yet they do nothing. What the hell is up with that?
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    Because Western audiences don't go for cutesy Japanese crap. You might, but the other 99% of the population won't.

    The rest of the world has Sackboy, which is a much more flexible mascot that can be transformed into any other Sony character, like Kratos, Nariko, Helghast, Drake, Chimera etc. I know which I'd prefer...and it doesn't look like Hello Kitty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ant1th3s1s View Post
    Because Western audiences don't go for cutesy Japanese crap. You might, but the other 99% of the population won't.

    The rest of the world has Kevin Butler or Sackboy. I know which I'd prefer...and it doesn't look like Hello Kitty.

    Kevin Butler Is funny but isn't mascot material imo (just a ad campaign) and sackboy is pretty much the unofficial mascot, but isn't sackboy "cutesy"?.


    Toro and Kuro are the untapped part, i mean they could at least use it for the Younger audiences and stuff. it doesn't make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ps360 View Post
    Kevin Butler Is funny but isn't mascot material imo and sackboy is pretty much the unofficial mascot.

    But Toro and Kuro is the untapped part, i mean they could at least use it for the Younger audiences and stuff. it doesn't make sense.
    Updated my post as you were replying to it. Agreed, Kevin Butler's more of a spokesman than a mascot.

    Sackboy can be adapted to the younger market easily. Look at the Toy Story and Muppet costumes.

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    because not everyone is a japanophile like you

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoomHorror View Post
    because not everyone is a japanophile like you
    Yet the world is full of wapanese people, like him.

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    Crash Bandicoot was a good mascot for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasombra View Post
    Crash Bandicoot was a good mascot for them.
    Yeah, and then Naughty Dog sold it and the games started to suck, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagflar View Post
    Yeah, and then Naughty Dog sold it and the games started to suck, too.
    Maybe Sony should just not have a mascot in the west then. They should be mavericks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasombra View Post
    Maybe Sony should just not have a mascot in the west then. They should be mavericks.
    Well, there's nothing wrong with having a mascot, but since they don't really have a strong, lead character with serialized sequels a la Mario, I agree. To think there was a time in which the PlayStation 3 was represented with Kratos lol.

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    I'm surprised Nathan Drake is not the mascot since his games are always bundled with the PS3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasombra View Post
    I'm surprised Nathan Drake is not the mascot since his games are always bundled with the PS3.
    so is like every major ps3 exclusive

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    Not that I've seen. At least in my part of Canada and Korea it was Uncharted 2 years ago, and now Uncharted 3 recently. I've not seen any other exclusives with it.

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    i seen ps3s be bundled with killzone, lbp, infamous, modnations, and even harry potter.

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    I love this trophy from Weekly Toro Station. You get it just entering the game for first time lol

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    Having to put up with those two things as mascots would be enough to make me switch from ps3 to pc. Yikes. Even the Wii doesn't have things that corny and childish.

    Random panda graphics popping all over the screen, the underage school girl look, anime stle graphics, tentacle porn, animal characters like these two cats, hentai, etc. - that stuff doesn't go over well outside of Japanese culture. Sony has done a good job catering to the cultures of where they sell. If you showed an average westerner some of those videos above, the response would most often be "What. The. F***.". Sure, Japanese culture has it's own little niche in America, but it's not enough of their target market to cater to. Those who aren't into Japanese culture are often just weirded out to the point that it would hurt sony.

    I don't think Sony really needs a mascot. They used Kevin Butler effectively as the voice of the company, and did just fine without anybody parading around in a costume or digital mascots on tv. When the situation calls for a mascot, like a commercial, they've done well using a mix of characters from their exclusive games to get the job done (like below). They even managed to bring a mix of exclusive characters to life in an effective way without really using a mascot for the Long Live Play campaign.

    I think mascots are best left to baseball games and amusement parks in today's age. A brand logo and good spokesman are all the gaming companies need thanks to easy accessibility to customers and a much higher rate of "older" customers who don't respond to mascots.




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    I think as stated previously.

    Toro and Kuro wouldn't appeal to a HUGE portion of the western audience. That is stuff that would appeal more to the Asian community. They love cute silly stuff....... Every exclusive character is a Mascot for Sony. That is the beauty of it, because there is a different character that speaks to everyone.

    Example:
    Sackboy - kids
    Kratos - Peeps who love extreme badass-ness.
    Nathan Drake - hipsters / thrill seekers
    Chimera/Helghast - Sci-fi lovers


    Something for everyone.... as opposed to getting Toro and Kuro and looking like another Wii....

    I think Sony are doing perfectly fine. Kevin Butler is a great spokesperson. Qore is fine with me, as everything else is.

    They are selling PS3's and bringing great games. Anything else really is just beyond their control, but i think for the most part its just people like you that don't like one thing and you try to make it seem like the company is in turmoil when they are really doing perfectly fine. -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalick View Post
    Having to put up with those two things as mascots would be enough to make me switch from ps3 to pc. Yikes. Even the Wii doesn't have things that corny and childish.
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    What he said. The "Michael" commercial was bad ass.


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    I would love to see Toro and Kuro over here. Maybe not as official mascots but it wouldn't hurt to have some news presented by them every once in a while. After all they do look like funny guys.

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    I really feel like the Playstation brand is being represented by Nathan Drake and Sackboy right now. They are the two biggest sony characters at the moment, and are basically universally adored. They fit in with western culture, and they cover basically all of the bases. I don't think two anime cats would appeal to anyone anywhere in the U.S. or Europe.

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