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    A movie is far more realistic, but obviously Hollywood brings in more money, so why go against them? It's ridiculous if they think a virtual thing is more harmful than a movie. I feel like they are TOO ignorant to the concept of video games, so they get butt hurt when their child does something wrong, and so they blame the games.

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    They're talking shit... I mean videogames having nothing to do with violent behaviour, a rare violent incident occurs, they found out he played video games, BOOM! another headline to cause rage against videogames
    but they forgot about all the people who play violent games(like me) who never do or have violent intentions, something on a tv screen barely influences my real life decisions and it's the same for most people, the people commited violent acts would have done so regardless of whether they had played a video game or not... they just make stupid stories for stupid people...

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    I think that games nowadays are incredibly violent, take for instance GoW, Splatterhouse even MW. Fictional or non, these games deserve the rating they get and I would not allow my kids to play them until they come of age.

    In Canada, film makers can request a grant from the government to help fund the production of their film. All films are eligble for this grant, but there are 2 exceptions that won't qualify, and that is too violent or too (adult) graphical (ie. porn).

    A lot of film makers opposed these exceptions but I thought it was a great idea. I mean if you're only going to make something incredibly violent or graphic, then I don't want the governments (ie. taxpayers) money paying for it.

    I read that someone wrote, "When I was younger, I was playing..." I don't think that argument holds up any more, because now, kids are exposed to everything, all extremes right away, there's no more of this gradual growth into more and more adult content.

    The problem is global, all information is available all the time and easily, you just simply need an internet connection. Even if you don't have one, someone you know will ultimately show it to you.

    Best to live your lives with whatever morals and values you were instilled with by your parents. That how I choose to raise my kids. I won't keep them in the dark about certain things, but there needs to be a limit. I mean they're still kids, keep 'em young for as long as you can.

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    This will always come up as some 50 or 60 year old politician only knows video games to be Pac Man or Tetris, so they see GTA or COD and see how "violent" it is because it looks somewhat realistic. They don't realize that the average gamer is in his/her 30s and can handle mature content.

    This is a politician's softball topic - it's very easy to be anti-violent games because it looks like they are protecting our children or some other nonsense. It's like when politicians will be against "hate speech" when a radio jock or tv personality makes an off-color joke and 500 people in a special interest group claim to represent thousands, if not millions. They then use this to threaten a company's advertisers because they got offended. Then they usually rope in the politician to make an anti-"hate speech" statement. Same goes for what people think that bullying is (or has mutated into). Now if you look crosseyed at someone, you are a bully.

    The reason i call these softball issues is that it is easy to talk about them and be against them with very little knowledge of the topic. A politician can go on at length making it look like they are doing good for their constituents, all the while the real issues get forgotten about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nullzero00 View Post
    This will always come up as some 50 or 60 year old politician only knows video games to be Pac Man or Tetris, so they see GTA or COD and see how "violent" it is because it looks somewhat realistic. They don't realize that the average gamer is in his/her 30s and can handle mature content.

    This is a politician's softball topic - it's very easy to be anti-violent games because it looks like they are protecting our children or some other nonsense. It's like when politicians will be against "hate speech" when a radio jock or tv personality makes an off-color joke and 500 people in a special interest group claim to represent thousands, if not millions. They then use this to threaten a company's advertisers because they got offended. Then they usually rope in the politician to make an anti-"hate speech" statement. Same goes for what people think that bullying is (or has mutated into). Now if you look crosseyed at someone, you are a bully.

    The reason i call these softball issues is that it is easy to talk about them and be against them with very little knowledge of the topic. A politician can go on at length making it look like they are doing good for their constituents, all the while the real issues get forgotten about.
    I agree, and you bring up some good points in your P.O.V, Like they say you can't make everyone happy, its always a two edged sword.

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    After the Sandy Hook tragedy, the gov is meeting with video gaming representative s from the industry to discuss violence in todays games.

    Here we go again, and another topic is gun control.

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    Oh this thread is still open? Good times, good times..

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    So many violent games that I've played & I know the difference from right or wrong. I'm not going to go brutally run over a crowd of people just cause I've done so in GTA. It could be from good parenting, being told to realize what's real what's not etc. Again, I'd rather blame society. Depending on the individuals surroundings it can be numerous of reasons.

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    LOL, this is fucking retarded.

    I'm sorry there isn't violence in films and shows? There wasn't violence in the past 24/7.

    It's fucking bad parenting is why kids go out and kill shit. Oh my son played call of duty that's why he is bashing people at school!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCLEPAULIE View Post
    They blame video games rather than take the time and effort to find the real problems with society , like lack of education , poor living conditions , no opportunities , its easy to blame a game for something but if you look into the real reason for bad things happening you might have to address them so they say fuck it blame games
    This. The solutions that we need to come up with to address gun violence are too involved and complicated for the media and government to sell to people. It's so much easier to pick a scapegoat to blame. Keep it simple for simple-minded people. The real issue is the vast majority of people with mental illnesses and/or poorly raised children living in the same house with fully automatic weapons that belong to their parents. But you can't wrap that up in a neat little package and put a bow on it like you can with violent video games.



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    My parents let me play Assassins creed 1 when i was 12 years old and now i am 16 and i dont go to school and assassinate people. Like many others have said above they blame videogames because they dont have solutions to solve problems and decide to put all the blame on video games.And they are probably gonna keep on putting blame on video games so not gonna rage about it anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abhinandhan22 View Post
    My parents let me play Assassins creed 1 when i was 12 years old and now i am 16 and i dont go to school and assassinate people. Like many others have said above they blame videogames because they dont have solutions to solve problems and decide to put all the blame on video games.And they are probably gonna keep on putting blame on video games so not gonna rage about it anymore.
    So that's what you play Assassin's Creed for, killing innocent pixels? I played AC just to mess with the guards and hide in a pile of hay. But really, the reason they target video games is because video games are easy to talk about. It's harder for them to say, "a little boy walked into a store down x street and killed y people with a clothes hanger. This appears to be signs of bad parenting, because..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encorporeus View Post
    So that's what you play Assassin's Creed for, killing innocent pixels? I played AC just to mess with the guards and hide in a pile of hay. But really, the reason they target video games is because video games are easy to talk about. It's harder for them to say, "a little boy walked into a store down x street and killed y people with a clothes hanger. This appears to be signs of bad parenting, because..."

    You get my drift.
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    Video Games are an affront to family values, a detriment to society, and are responsible for the epidemic of sin that has swept the western world.
    Our precious children are being brainwashed by their nintendos and their calls to duty; games like postal and manhunt have shockingly realistic graphics that depict satanic violence and encourage a state of mind in contradiction with the will of God.

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    you know what's ridiculous... GTA has all sorts of blood spattered gore, and tonnes of references about drugs, and they still feel the need to block boobs over in the strip club.
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    Everyone looks for problems in new things... when tv first came out, there were plenty of people who were against it simply because it changed the social dynamic. Video games are the same - some people who don't play them assume that they are to blame for every problem simply because they can't understand it themselves.

    I remember watching an episode of Penn and Tellers bullshit about this; there was some little kid who spent basically all his time on violent video games, and so they took him to a shooting range and let him fire a rifle - after one shot he was so scared of it that he was in tears - as most people here seem to be saying, rather than bashing on about crap that you don't understand, how about you devote your time, energy and money to actually improving the social issues which cause bad behaviour in the first place?
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    Video games as a whole just need an advocate to speak on their behalf to pull the wool OFF of the idiots eyes. In my opinion, it SHOULD be extremely easy to stop the masses bitching about video games/media causing violence by bringing up the fact that violence has always existed since the dawn of time.

    Even avoiding the exceptional amount of violence depicted in The Bible, a snarky lawyer acting on behalf of video games need only say to a Congressional Grand Hearing:

    Which console did Genghis Khan own?
    Which Grand Theft Auto game did Jack The Ripper reference as his motivation to murder the prostitutes of the East End?
    What Call Of Duty was Adolph Hitler playing as he invaded Poland? Video games weren't invented then, hmm. Curious.....

    Surely, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Speck, Charles Manson and Ted Bundy must have been adversely affected by video games. What was the popular one then? Pong? Yep, I can definitely see the violent urges that could be implanted into your head by playing a game like Pong.

    &^%$#@! ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qurb View Post
    I agree with you on this. I don't know why these people say videos games are getting more violent when there are movies like The Human Centipede that are 3x more gruesome and violent than games. Just drives me nuts..
    games have gotten less violent actually

    here's a game from the early 2000's



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    in all reality, they need someone or something to blame.

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