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    Violence, in Games

    Why are parents, politicians, and almost any anti-video games organizations are saying that there is to much violence in today's video games? Do you agree or disagree? If something happens video games are to blame for violent behavior as they say!

    In some stores that sell video games you get carded if you purchase a Rated M game, I was asked once if i was going to let underage kids play this game. I was like no way its for me only.


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    I agree with you on this. I don't know why these people say videos games are getting more violent when there are movies like The Human Centipede that are 3x more gruesome and violent than games. Just drives me nuts..

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    They blame video games rather than take the time and effort to find the real problems with society , like lack of education , poor living conditions , no opportunities , its easy to blame a game for something but if you look into the real reason for bad things happening you might have to address them so they say fuck it blame games
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    I remember having a school debate about this subject last year. The rating is used as a guideline to tell you what might be displayed in the content, same as movies. Some movies are far more violent than games and yet they're still allowed in the cinema, whereas the Government's focus more on a fictional content on a disc which is 95% of the time less violent. People should be allowed to play games while a few years below the guidelines if they know what to expect in the game and know it's fictional and to have fun.

    In today's world, the major problem is that young kids are exposed to many of these violent games, and all think it's fun and all. I was playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 a while back and in Spec Ops Survival I matched up with some kid with a mic. When I asked how old he was he said he was 7 years. I went on to say via message that he shouldn't be playing Call of Duty because it's too violent, but he then said "It doesn't scare me" or some random kid-talk. Then I asked about if his parents allowed it and he said his parents had no problem playing -_-
    What has this world come to?

    When I was 8 I was playing games like Age of Mythology (classic game) and racing games etc. I didn't start playing shooting games until 3 years ago (I'm 15 now), but I knew what to expect from it and back then was scared shitless by some of the games.
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    I have played a lot of violent games and I'm not a homicide killer.

    They actually help me release the anger I gain in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sly Cooper View Post
    I have played a lot of violent games and I'm not a homicide killer.

    They actually help me release the anger I gain in real life.
    Which is the point of some games, like God of War.

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    Violence has and always will be here, its human nature to create/destroy. People act like the world is so much worse then it used to be but honestly its been about the same as it always was. There have always been wars and people just generally acting like dicks to each other for one reason or another. The problem now is it gets reported instantly and globally so it seems to be more frequent.

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    Yes it really pisses me off with all this controversy about violence in video games when movies are even more violent than games with it being more live action

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerdip View Post
    Yes it really pisses me off with all this controversy about violence in video games when movies are even more violent than games with it being more live action
    I totally agree that the movie industry is far more violent, would say it has more influence to a degree.

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    Its funny that you mention this because Im actually writing a paper on video games effect on society right now. Im supposed to claim something, like a thesis, about their influence on people but I just dont what to say

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    This debate been going on since the early 90's. When a video game has a positive influence on a person, they never report those findings. So in regards to blaming video games on violent actions a person takes is just plan dumb. Just like those people that think professional wrestling is 100% legit, they are so far disconnected from reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blauchyboy View Post
    Its funny that you mention this because Im actually writing a paper on video games effect on society right now. Im supposed to claim something, like a thesis, about their influence on people but I just dont what to say
    Its fun when you have to write a paper about some topic you like, in this case video games. Some influence mentioned from various articles is teens trying to imitate certain actions like take GTA IV, for example: shooting at cops, stealing cars there's more but teens say the video games made me do it.

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    They just want a scapegoat for why there is so much violence in the world and video games are what they decided to blame now after years of saying it was violent movies. In another few years they'll find something else to blame


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    Quote Originally Posted by jay_hawk View Post
    This debate been going on since the early 90's. When a video game has a positive influence on a person, they never report those findings. So in regards to blaming video games on violent actions a person takes is just plan dumb. Just like those people that think professional wrestling is 100% legit, they are so far disconnected from reality.
    You brought a good point and i agree with you and about wrestling i agree too, and it has influence o
    teens to wrestle in the backyards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parkerdip View Post
    Yes it really pisses me off with all this controversy about violence in video games when movies are even more violent than games with it being more live action
    This argument is used by gamers all the time, but to be honest, its full of crap.
    Every year, the American Film industry generates hundreds of movies, and while many of these are extremely violent or perverse (sexual violence, realistic violence), they are undeniably in the minority.

    Earlier someone mentioned The Human Centipede.
    It is a truly f**ked up movie if there ever was one, and its a sad commentary on our society that such a film even exists.
    Released in 2010, the movie made approximately $252,000 at the box office after a limited theatrical release. By comparison, in the same year gamers enjoyed the release of Call of Duty: Black Ops (which sold 5.6 million units in the first 24 hours of its release) and Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (which as of March 2012 has sold over 12 million units); 2 games focused entirely on killing as many people as possible; and while certainly, The Human Centipede's violence is much more graphic, much more expletive, its potential audience is far less than that of video games.

    What I'm trying to say is that graphically violent films like Saw, The Human Centipede and Hostel are in the minority. Every year the film industry distributes Romantic Comedies, Dramas, Action-adventures, Biopics, Thrillers, Horrors and Family-friendly animations; the percentage of shockingly violent films is extremely low. By comparison, the vast majority of video games feature interactive or implied violence in one form or another.

    Furthermore, the argument that B is worse than A, therefore A is OK is completely flawed. By the same logic, it is OK to rape and murder your neighbour because their dog shat on your lawn, because in Rwanda, millions of people did it and it was way worse.

    It is an undeniable fact that video games are becoming more violent, or are portraying violence more effectively, and that these games are becoming more prevalent. This is because violence is what society demands; for every Journey or Flower, there are twenty Call of Duty, Battlefield, Assassin's Creed or Halo games.

    Ultimately, however, the entire discussion is pointless. No matter how much Jack Thompson blathers incoherently about how video games are destroying our society, nothing will come of it. Games are free speech, and are protected as such.
    Video Games aren't the first misunderstood medium to be targeted (porn, rock and roll), and they won't be the last. Nobody is going to take away your video games.

    Finally, yes there are those pesky government-types refusing to classify games for us Aussies like Manhunt, but to be honest, if you want to play a game in which you are a psychotic, death-row inmate who murders people in ways that would shame de Sade for the entertainment of snuff-film maker, you probably aren't a valued member of society with an opinion worth expressing.

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    This has been in the news every so many years for the past two decades.

    While I myself don't like playing violent videogames, I certainly wouldn't stop others from playing them. Of course, I wouldn't let any young kids of mine play them until they're old enough to understand what they're playing. I also applaud stores carding people when they buy rated M games. I know they help release anger, frustration and the urge to kill. There have actually been studies done recently stating that gamers are calmer people in general but much like R rated films, the person playing the game needs to be mature enough to play. Comparing violent movies to violent games is literally like comparing apples to oranges. Violent movies are generally rated higher like R that restricts young kids from going to see them without supervision. (I'm talking about movie theatres only.) Violent videogames, while rated higher like M, are easier for younger kids to access since an older sibling could have purchased and played said game.

    All of that aside, the government gets pressure from parental groups to do something about this "bad stuff". Basically, I look at it like those parental groups are a bunch of people who should never have become parents because they don't want to take the time and responsibility to teach their kids right from wrong, etc. So if Suzy's kid turns out to be a psycho killer, it's got to be violent videogames, right?

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    Video Games = Scapegoat. They love the violence, it let's them get away with a ton of other shit.

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    I think it's because most of those who say that video games are getting more violent don't actually game. Whereas everyone watches movies and just accepts the violence as part and parcel...

    Gaming is an easy target, especially as the majority of people who do play 'violent' video games are middle-aged men who couldn't care less about what others think and wouldn't bother fighting back (ironic, I know).


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    Doesn't matter if it's books, films, music or videogames, there are levels of responsibility concerning the content within for both the consumer and distributor.

    If you promote a film/game as a cutesy family friendly adventure romp but actually have graphic violence and sexual content you'd be an idiot yet taking one look at the rating would give anyone with a smidge of logic a clue it's not My Little Pony.

    There seems to be a complete disregard for ratings with some parents, if you teach your children well to begin with then by all means, let them see a film or play a game slightly above their age range as long as you understand the impact it could have on them, just don't bleat about the wrongs of the world if kids blame the things they were exposed to due to your negligence and/or ignorance as a reason for a crime.
    Children don't know any better, even at 16 many know little of the real world, despite the best protests of the majority, learning even a small amount about any book,game, movie music act et al can give parents a good idea as to how suitable it would be yet most of the time it's 'don't care as long as it keeps them quiet/happy'.

    The other part is similar, general cultural ignorance, remember there are people out there that believe The X Factor is the best thing on television yet would tell you Game Of Thrones is 'shit because it's stupid'. That means there are people who are unfortunately in a place of influence to comment on things they don't understand with a heavy hand of wrongness as they fail to see the whole picture.

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    The Human Centipede movies are great... I heard a third one is being made... the finale in part 2 was phenomenol!

    There is a ton of violence in games & personally I like it that way... who doesn't like smacking zombies around? The purpose of movies and games is to get away from your responsibilities for a while... like reading a book...

    ... without getting too involved in a debate... I just think people already have a screw loose who commit heinous acts of violence... and there are a few ideologies in this world which promote violence... many of the crimes and violence in the radius of where I live are consistently from certain demographics... I never really hear about video games or movies being the catalyst... I'm sure in extreme cases we hear about it then it becomes a national news story & something the politicians will run with to make it look as though there over-paid, public sector job has worth.

    If there was a study of all violent crime in the countries we live in I highly doubt, on a pie-chart, that violence due to video games would be anymore than a percent of a percent of a slice.

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