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    PS4, why?


    The Playstation 4 was announced not long ago. While many Sony fanboys were ecstatic about this announcement I actually have a few issues to bring up. Sony seems to think that this console will have a better launch than the PS3’s, boy were they wrong. So many mistakes yet so early on.
    Firstly, what was with them not showing the console itself? It really did just look lazy on their behalf, I know they are ‘claiming’ that they need something to show at E3 but this is really just sad that they cant show more games or something. I can’t believe they couldn’t at least show a concept design. People need to know what the console itself looks like so they can know how large it is or where the I/O will be etc. I am disappointed by this fact alone.

    Now, an issue that most men want to push under the rug, so women can clean it later, literally. Women at the event, where were they? I am saddened by the fact that such a modern company like Sony holds such sexist values. It sickens me.

    No backwards compatibility? What were Sony thinking? This is such a huge setback. It is just terrible. I thought they would have learnt when people weren’t happy about the lack of compatibility on later PS3 models. I don’t see why Sony can’t just adopt the same principle that Windows and Mac have been using, where I can turn on my PC and play a game from yesterday, or a game from 10 years ago. Either way, Sony failed again with this one.

    Now for the specs themselves, why are people even calling this a ‘next gen console’? Gaming PCs have had better hardware for years now, plus they can do a lot more. This is why the console industry needs to die, companies like Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have it in a death lock and the amount of productivity happening is at snail pace. I hate to repeat myself but disappointing.
    So overall, this is going to be a failure. If Sony weren’t so stubborn and would actually make their platform open then I’m sure we would be having a different conversation at the moment.

    This is my opinion. I am entitled to it so don't try and block it. Don’t start a flame war, just a civilized discussion please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Parmigiana View Post
    blah, blah, blah, blah.....
    Why don't you tell us how you really feel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undrey View Post
    Do you know to do anything other than rant?
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    If you're honestly complaining about the fact that there were no women at the event, you're a fucking idiot. So you're saying Sony should have had less qualified people go on stage and present their next console, solely because they have a vagina? How is that not sexist?



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    1 - Sony didn't show us the console because they haven't finalized the design as to how it will actually look.

    2 - The % of women-to-men entertainment presenters is very low all around the world, not just in Sony. Men are most of the time better at presenting and explaining (and have more knowledge of) electronic hardware, software, apps etc.

    3 - Backwards compatibility is via the PSN through Gaikai technologies, so there is BC (just not automatically). Placing the CELL BC chip would bump the price of the PS4 at least $100 which would severely lower overall sales.

    4 - You can't compare computers to consoles - consoles are low energy-consuming devices and making them have top-of-the-range hardware would not only decrease sales but melt the console within a couple of days. Computers have much more space for air to come in and go out compared to a console, and the cooling in a computer (ATM) can be via water instead of fans spinning around.

    You clearly didn't fully pay attention to the Sony Reveal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Page View Post
    If you're honestly complaining about the fact that there were no women at the event, you're a fucking idiot. So you're saying Sony should have had less qualified people go on stage and present their next console, solely because they have a vagina? How is that not sexist?
    I'm saying Sony should have equal representation from both sexes. Of course they should be equally qualified.
    Go back to your swamp, bigot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encorporeus View Post
    2 - The % of women-to-men entertainment presenters is very low all around the world, not just in Sony. Men are most of the time better at presenting and explaining (and have more knowledge of) electronic hardware, software, apps etc.
    Excuse me? I'm sorry but you are an idiot

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    Well E3 is the best time to reveal new game consoles and games. Maybe there's a good reason why there's isn't any backwards compatibility. So I will wait until E3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Parmigiana View Post
    I'm saying Sony should have equal representation from both sexes. Of course they should be equally qualified.
    Go back to your swamp, bigot
    How many men are in the gaming industry? How many women? I don't know the answer to either of those questions but I can tell you with absolute certainty that there are far more men than women. That being said, it should be obvious that generally, men will be at the head of video game companies and as such, men will be the ones to present their product to the public.

    And honestly, what does any of that have to do with the PlayStation 4? How does Sony not having women at the PS4 announcement make the console worse?



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    This guy makes me lol. Obviously someone's second account trying to troll.


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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingturk View Post
    This guy makes me lol. Obviously someone's second account trying to troll.
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    What a waste of thread. You claim that the PS4 will fail & claim that there are so many mistakes but yet, you only expressed your own quarrels. Boo hoo. I got news for you (I'm a PC gamer) & it's NOT going to fail. Consoles are a huge part of the industry, probably the only reason it's still going. & there will always be people that want a cheap solution & not want to deal with PC tech. (or are just not tech savvy). Thus, you get the consoles. Cheap & affordable PC's.. Why would there be a GTX Titan in a PS4? That's not cheap.. (Are you putting two & two together yet?). Again, (no women at the event, backwards compatibility) these are your own issues. Get over it or game on PC & be happy all around. You'll be able to play Unreal Tournament... talk about backwards compatible or just keep your damn PS3.

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    Already majorly bugged by this Backwards Compatibility whine,it's a new console, a new generation, PS3 games are for PS3, you want to play them, play them on a fecking PS3. If they do stream old games then wonderful, i'd rather a console that didn't cost a shit-tonne at launch for the sake of playing previous gen games.

    And OP, you may be entitled to your opinion but that doesn't make it relevant. A bit less clutching at straws, clueless bandwagon jumping and hiding that PC fanboyism a little better and you may have a debate on your hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larrydavidsavatar View Post
    Already majorly bugged by this Backwards Compatibility whine,it's a new console, a new generation, PS3 games are for PS3, you want to play them, play them on a fecking PS3. If they do stream old games then wonderful, i'd rather a console that didn't cost a shit-tonne at launch for the sake of playing previous gen games.

    And OP, you may be entitled to your opinion but that doesn't make it relevant. A bit less clutching at straws, clueless bandwagon jumping and hiding that PC fanboyism a little better and you may have a debate on your hands.
    Just what I was thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by ant1th3s1s View Post
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    Oh look, he's back... woopti-fucking-doo. Let's do this back to back, to see your points.

    No console:
    While I could agree that maybe a concept art would be sufficient, if that is far from the final design, there would have been no reason to show it. People were getting the hint that a PS4 would come, and Sony holds a conference to verify the suspicions. We're still pretty early on. Take the announcement as it is.

    Lack of women:
    Easily the stupidest of your problems. If there are no female CEO's then of course they're not going to be on the damn stage. It's not sexist, that the founders and CEO's of Sony and diverse gaming companies. If they have a lack of female experts, then it isn't sexist to not have them on stage. Also if the situation was reversed you wouldn't have any complaints about it. Step down of your radical feminist soapbox.

    Backwards Capability:
    It's a new console with new games... deal with it. Would you expect a Wii U to play Wii, GameCube, N64, SNES and NES games? No. Do you expect the PS4 to play PS1 games no? If you already have a PS3, then play it on the PS3... I don't see the problem.

    Specs:
    Consoles specs are not like the PC's because that is not how it works. Console are a cheap alternative than upgrading your computer all the time. Where developers can develop games, and players can play games, without having to spend a lot on money on something they may not care about. I personally don't care about specs, as long as there is good gameplay. Plus, if it has to have the same standard as todays computers, they would have to jack up the price massively, and I don't think they're going to do another "599 US Dollars".




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