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This is a discussion on Sony Patents Technology That Blocks Pre-Owned Games within the Sony forum, part of the Multiplatform Talk; Originally Posted by AlecDawesome The next Xbox will most likely have the same thing. and if that happens the Wii ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlecDawesome View Post
    The next Xbox will most likely have the same thing.
    and if that happens the Wii U wins.

    simple as that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ps360 View Post
    and if that happens the Wii U wins.

    simple as that.
    I'm pretty sure new games only beats casual games only.
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    Important to note that all patents do not become products. Sony patented something similar to this in 2005. Rumor: PlayStation 3s won't play borrowed, used, or rented games [UPDATED] - GameSpot.com

    There is also a lot to think of here. What about broken/stolen consoles? Should you have to re-buy a game because you no longer have a working console? Sony would have to track network data and be able to link games to a new machine. It'd be complicated and expensive on their part. There's a lot that would have to be taken into account before fully implementing something like this, and I'm sure that the suits at Sony are going to want to make sure it makes sense financially to do it.

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    Dick move bro, dick move. A lot of games are annoying to find new, plus I love GameStop. I'll atill buy a PS4, this is still stupid. Also alienates people.

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    Dick move bro, dick move. A lot of games are annoying to find new, plus I love GameStop. I'll atill buy a PS4, this is still stupid. Also alienates people.

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    Just remember that capcom tried to do that with some of their games and they lost a lot money on it, being dicks to their fans/patrons.

    But Sony should(key word-should) already be walking on eggs shells from their shaky start on sell of the costly ps3 in the launch and they'd lose a lot of money on this as well.

    I agree that it would be time to try a new gaming outlet from sony if they started actually implementing this

    but, I'm going to say even though I'm still new to how sony rolls, I'm going to be loyal and naive enough to say that they wouldn't be that stupid.
    ~you know like most other things, hackers and beta seekers would find SOME way around this.
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    Wow, what if my new PS4 explodes or something, you mean I need to buy the games I had when I purchase a new one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cengizbobengiz View Post
    I love GameStop.
    I never seen/heard anyone say that before lol. Even people who go there all the time say how much they hate it cause the employees etc...

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    What about people that have numerous systems? Like what if I bought a game and Comp wanted to play it later?

    I am already fucked into buying two copies of any VITA games we both want to play.

    But it is what it is. If they wanna screw us then fuck it. Microsoft makes games too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kianstrike View Post
    Wow, what if my new PS4 explodes or something, you mean I need to buy the games I had when I purchase a new one?
    Yeah a point. If your PS4 breaks and the games are tagged to the system does that mean you have to buy all the games again. Don't see how they could get round that. I only buy new games (most of the time) but still is a very dumb idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broken View Post
    What about people that have numerous systems? Like what if I bought a game and Comp wanted to play it later?
    be quiet you terrible pirate

    your obviously are ruining the game industry if you share a product you bought or use it on multiple systems.


    how dare you


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    Quote Originally Posted by kianstrike View Post
    Wow, what if my new PS4 explodes or something, you mean I need to buy the games I had when I purchase a new one?
    Quote Originally Posted by parkerdip View Post
    Yeah a point. If your PS4 breaks and the games are tagged to the system does that mean you have to buy all the games again. Don't see how they could get round that. I only buy new games (most of the time) but still is a very dumb idea.
    They'll cover this scenario, possibly through an activation system similar to the PS3, but limited to one console at a time. Trust that Sony has forecast this scenario and has a plan for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bounce View Post
    Important to note that all patents do not become products. Sony patented something similar to this in 2005. Rumor: PlayStation 3s won't play borrowed, used, or rented games [UPDATED] - GameSpot.com

    There is also a lot to think of here. What about broken/stolen consoles? Should you have to re-buy a game because you no longer have a working console? Sony would have to track network data and be able to link games to a new machine. It'd be complicated and expensive on their part. There's a lot that would have to be taken into account before fully implementing something like this, and I'm sure that the suits at Sony are going to want to make sure it makes sense financially to do it.
    Bingo. The sky hasn't fallen yet re: Sony's in-game advertising patents either.

    We don't yet know how this'll work yet but it's a good bet it'll be similar to the VITA's implementation where games are tied to use accounts, not necessarily a specific console. It's not good for multi-user households (Steam already account-locks games and it doesn't hurt PC sales), but as a means to combat used-game sales at stores like Gamestop, it's a step in the right direction for the profitability of the industry.

    Regardless, I'll be buying a PS4 along with a 720 and don't really care about the DRM implementation, I'll cop it to play the games I want to play. Conversely, if enough people vote with their wallets and boycott, we could see a softening of the policy over time.

    It's simply too early to tell how this will all play out...let's see if the PS4 is announced this year, then worry about the details.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ps360 View Post
    be quiet you terrible pirate

    your obviously are ruining the game industry if you share a product you bought or use it on multiple systems.


    how dare you
    Steam and Windows say "Hi!".

    Yeah, you can install Steam games on multiple systems, but the games are account-locked ie no sharing nor concurrent logins, and there's an activation limit on Windows to prevent free-for-all system installation.

    Where's your song and dance routine for Valve and MS? They've had similar DRM policies for a decade...when was the last time you bought a used game on Steam or a used copy of Windows?

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    Like I posted on this already. It's shit. I buy new when I can, but when I can't I'll buy used. (severely depends on the game)

    If Sony does this, they will fall...especially if the Xbox doesn't. There are far more people that buy used than the rich people that buy everything new. I'm not a rich person, but I'm not poor either. I've been at the bottom and know what it's like, so I don't mind passing off a game to someone less fortunate than I. (not saying that everyone who buys used is less fortunate or poor.)

    But like others have said, it's too early and patents don't always become products.

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    I don't usually buy used, but this could be bad for latecomers when production of making those games cease and only used copies remain. I understand the business aspect of used games, but I think flat-out making it impossible to use them is an insane idea. I doubt they'd implement it knowing the amount of fan backlash it would cause.


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    I WONT BUY A PS4 IF THIS GOES AHEAD will stay on the ps3 till death, then go elsewhere (or by then on my 2-3 child will quit gaming lol)

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    I hate DRM. It's like most products you can get in this world are able to be sold used, but then there's this certain compartmental industry that feels their laborious efforts in creating a product are somehow more special than other products and need to be guarded with DRM. On a philosophical level, what makes a CD player, a book, or a painting any less creative, any less of a work of art, or any less of a significant accomplishment than a video game, a song, or a movie? They both took work to create, and may/may not express a form of art, but some industries are just cash-hungry. Notice how its like the 3 biggest industries that are pushing this so much: Video game, Music, and Film. You can't convince me that they are so hard-up for money that DRM in general is even necessary. Even with all the used game loss profits, burnt/counterfeit games etc etc, I can guarantee that devs and pubs are making pools of money still. The pubs more than the devs, but even the devs are making tons of cash. Same with the music industry and film industry. They're all already filthy rich, and they just want to be more filthy rich.
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    this wont happen. ever. too many people wont stand for it. its that simple
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    After it has been rumored that that orbis would block used games, this patent claim is scary. If they have any sense whatsoever, they'll focus on making good products instead putting time and effort (which could be spent on the product) into better drm. No one likes to be controlled, especially by DRM. If your product actually gives you your bang for your buck, then chances are people will buy it. If its half assed with drm, then you can bet pirates will crack it so people can have access to the few features it offers. It's not rocket science. Let's hope 2013 will be a comeback year for the industry, but not through the use of drm nonsense.

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    i dont buy used games so this doesnt effect me much except for the fact that if im tired of a game then its gonna be hard to sell it
    unless CFW makes it able to play used games in the far future

    also, if this does become a reality then consumers would probably flock more towards digital copies
    and pay for expensive games becuz you guys know getting a price drop on a AAA title takes a really long time to happen on the psn store

    but i doubt sony would perform seppuku this way...i hope



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